<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" ><channel><title>Alexander Holbreich&#187; spam</title> <atom:link href="http://alexander.holbreich.org/tag/spam/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://alexander.holbreich.org</link> <description>Everything becomes a little different as soon as it is spoken out loud.  ~Hermann Hesse</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 22:44:21 +0000</lastBuildDate> <language>en</language> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>Semantic spam Attack</title><link>http://alexander.holbreich.org/2007/10/semantic-spam-attack/</link> <comments>http://alexander.holbreich.org/2007/10/semantic-spam-attack/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:01:27 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>shuron</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Internet]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Personal]]></category> <category><![CDATA[WordPress]]></category> <category><![CDATA[semantic]]></category> <category><![CDATA[spam]]></category><guid isPermaLink="false">http://alexander.holbreich.org2007/10/semantic-spam-attack/</guid> <description><![CDATA[Today i notice five new comments on my blog that passed spam-filter and waited for approving. They all seemed to be OK. Example is: Yes we all know about that, but you published this on 2005, now it became very famous, moreover it very difficult to handle , all keys are very different so new [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today i notice five new comments on my blog that passed spam-filter and waited for approving. They all seemed to be OK. Example is:</p><p style="margin-left: 40px; font-style: italic">Yes we all know about that, but you published this on 2005, now it became very famous, moreover it very difficult to handle , all keys are very different so new people couldn&#8217;t work properly, its takes too much of time to take download, xp speed is better than vista in pc but in mac vista is best it works nice and speed too, every operation will done easily. Now lots of people are using, its try to hard learning this os but after knowing all its easy only, good nice information i studied in wikipedia, thanks for your blog.</p><p>on my deleted post About Windows Vista form Year 2005</p><p>But if you look at this post more precisely you notify that the is no point in this post. Is that possibly any question in this comment?  Or maybe it gives us new information? Probably it is just emotional expression about my wonderful post about Windows Vista!?</p><p>Of cause NOT!  My old short post from 2005 about future features of Vista deserves no attention in a year 2007. It is only refraining of sentences used in original post.</p><p>And there were at least five of such comments. I have even  already approved some of them days earlier, because they looked like they were written by humans. But having five in one night, made me suspicious. I started my investigation!<br /> I found and marked as spam them all on my blog!</p><p>I filtered all comment that just refrained my sentences.  In a manner if i e.g. say &#8220;Java is cool&#8221; in one sentence, the comment was containing corresponding sentence like &#8220;I found java is cool too, thank you for you great post!&#8221;.</p><p>Also the were always Link in a name of Commenting person, here are some of them:</p><ul><li>www.externallights.com</li><li>www.icongalore.com</li><li>www.designmyvilla.com</li></ul><p>Look! Even design-template of the first an last is the same! And second looks as spammers site as it is.</p><p>Please buy nothing from that domains an don&#8217;t give them any traffic! <strong>Don&#8217;t give the evil spammers any chance! </strong></p><p>Nevertheless, spammer seems to use very advanced tools! Look, I don&#8217;t think they wrote all of that comments using own  hands. That to much work for spammer (Spamer don&#8217;t like much work, otherwise they would do something more useful). Also the result of the comment could be much better in poor human made case. And that comments have had  the same structure.</p><p>Cause Englisher language has not really difficult grammar in case of sentence building, i thing that is fully automated generated spam. Also possible is that, that spam was made by humans used an very cool tool that generates much of the work!</p><p>It seems for me, we entering new Loop of anti-spam war! I wish you good day and successful battle!</p><p>P.S. Does anybody know how we can effective protect our blogs? My first intuitive solution is to restrict comments only to registered users. 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<category><![CDATA[blogging]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Google]]></category> <category><![CDATA[nofollow]]></category> <category><![CDATA[pagerank]]></category> <category><![CDATA[spam]]></category> <category><![CDATA[tags]]></category> <category><![CDATA[visualisation]]></category><guid isPermaLink="false">http://alexander.holbreich.org2007/02/nofollow-considered-harmful/</guid> <description><![CDATA[Background The rel="nofollow" attribute in a-Tags was intitally proposed by google and was supported by MSN and Yahoo! The intial intention was to stem spam-links, that can largely occure in some webpages, especially blog comments. The famious blog engines founded that idea very cool and mosst of them are setting the nofollow attirbut out of [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3>Background</h3><p>The <code>rel="nofollow"</code> attribute in a-Tags was intitally proposed by google and was supported by MSN and Yahoo! The intial intention was to stem spam-links, that can largely occure in some webpages, especially blog comments. The famious blog engines founded that idea very cool and mosst of them are setting the nofollow attirbut out of the box. WordPress does it by default too. But like many of good-mentione ideas can lead to some not wannted problems.</p><h3>Analysis</h3><p>Let&#8217;s look closely on noffolow attribute and his purposes. If &#8220;nofollow&#8221; relation is set within a link, the serachengine (like google) shuld not consider this link in the Pagerank callculations. Basic descriotion of Googles pagerank you will find in Resources below.<br /> But what is when all comment of one blogsystem are marked with &#8220;nofollow&#8221; by default. What does it means? Does it means taht, all comment on your blog are spam, or irrelevant information. If so why enabling commentig at all?  Nofollow probaly does not make really sense in comments or at least in all comment per default. Then comments that are deserve to be marked as &#8220;nofollow&#8221;  are not really comments you wish  see  on your page. Thay should be deleted by your spamfilter-plugin. So the is not realy any need to have &#8220;nofollow&#8221; in comment links.</p><p>But many of famious blog use it per default. (See <a href="http://blog.helmschrott.de/sonstiges/der-kleine-nofollow-report" target="_blank">german blogs</a> results)<br /> But should we consider nofollow attribute harmfull in any case and forever like <a title="No Nofollow" href="http://nonofollow.net/" target="_blank">No NoFollow intitiative </a>do? Let&#8217;s inspect their <a title="11 Reasons agains Nofollow" href="http://nonofollow.net/11-reasons-against-nofollow/">11 Reasons agains nofollow:</a></p><ol><li><strong> nofollow does not prevent comment spam </strong>- There are to meany points in this statment. At one side, of course &#8220;noflolow&#8221; do not prevent automatic spam. Furhter it can lead to fewer human-made spam (if someone sees that somebodys blog sets nofollows at default, he may not post sensless post, just to have link. Of course in this  case, noffolow leads to the fact, that also wanted comments are in absence, becourse authors becomme no &#8220;revard&#8221; for theyer commenting job.</li><li><strong>nofollow is confusingly named </strong>- i don&#8217;t know, i think this is not a point.</li><li><strong>nofollow harms the connections between web sites &#8211; </strong>I agree with that, the default and not human evaluated nofollow &#8211; harms!</li><li><strong>nofollow is not useful for humans, just for search engines using PageRank or a similar technique &#8211; </strong>Yes, but where is the problem?</li><li><strong>nofollow could be used to shut web sites out &#8211; </strong>This is true! And it can be very powerfull. Imagine: all bloggers from now on will sets nofollows on the wikipedia links. Ok you will be never able arganize something like this, but if&#8230;! <img src="http://alexander.holbreich.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif?4c9b33" alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></li><li><strong>nofollow discriminates legitimate users as spammers &#8211; </strong>That&#8217;s true. And is one reaaly big problem!<strong><br /> </strong></li><li><strong>nofollow heists commentatorsâ€™ earned attention &#8211; </strong>This can be true, as already mentioned at number 1.</li><li><strong>nofollow could be used to further discriminate weblogs</strong> &#8211; I think that says nothing.</li><li><strong>nofollow prevents the Web from being a web &#8211; </strong>That not precise, it contradics to the statement 4. I think web stays web, nofollow does only change the searchengines view of the web and that is something different!<strong><br /> </strong></li><li><strong>nofollow eliminates the dissemination of free speech &#8211; </strong>Oh yea! Say humane rights defenders from  &#8220;NO noffolow  party&#8221; <img src="http://alexander.holbreich.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif?4c9b33" alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> Why people allways try to argue that way to get attention ? <img src="http://alexander.holbreich.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif?4c9b33" alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> <strong><br /> </strong></li><li><strong>nofollow was developed in privacy with only search engines companies taking part in the discussion </strong>- Yes it&#8217;s true but also many of other beatifull, well accepted things. <img src="http://alexander.holbreich.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif?4c9b33" alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></li></ol><p>I my oppinion we shold be caryfull with &#8220;nofollow&#8221; usage. Nofollow can be dangerous (see points: <strong>1,3,5,6</strong>). No follow does not change the world in better way, and spam should be fighted before it reach web page. If spame is on page (in comment, forum-post, ..) it already to late, and nofollow do not handle it.</p><p>But the can be some usage for noFollow if can be handled by humans and not automaticaly. For example if someone buys adversting on your page. Or probaly you cites someones page that you don&#8217;t like, ant you don&#8217;t wish this page gain from it &#8211; why not &#8220;nofollow&#8221;?</p><h3>conclusion</h3><p><img title="Fight Spam not Blog" src="http://nonofollow.net/images/1/12/Logo.gif" alt="Fight Spam not Blog" align="middle" /></p><p>I am shure, future brings more relation-tags, to specify page relations more precisely. &#8220;Nofollow&#8221;- Tag may be not the perfect one, so use it carefullu or just don&#8217;t touch it &#8211; disable it!</p><p><strong>My blog don&#8217;t sets the nofollows per default, so you are wellcome to leave your comments!</strong></p><h3>Resources</h3><p><a href="http://blog.taragana.com/index.php/archive/wordpress-15-plugin-strip-nofollow-tag-from-comment-urls/2/" target="_blank">WordPress Plug in that disables rel=&#8221;nofollow&#8221; in comments</a> &#8211; use it!<br /> <a href="http://seo-marketing-blog.de/goatix/nofollow-links-im-firefox-anzeigen-lassen/" target="_blank">Three 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